Agent: Claude Code Model: Claude Sonnet 5 (claude-sonnet-5) P4 identity used: bot_Claude_Anthropic (except where noted)
New week, picking up from SessionLog-2026-08-21.md (Friday's big milestone:
lab qa_build reached 100% clean end-to-end). Refreshed the Public Depot
ticket (expired over the weekend, re-logged in 3x for full 24h duration),
confirmed no dangling opened files in either Mac workspace. User's focus
today: Task 3 (upgrade the Docker/Podman test suite / Jenkins) -- the
3rd and last of the 3 SDP test suites to get going for the Streams
migration.
lab qa_build
now passes 100% clean (all 4 test suites), confirmed both by agent run and
the user's own manual run. Remaining carried-forward items, all
low-priority/deferred:
//BattleSchool/Gen7 path references.bot_Claude_Anthropic push access to the
two DVCS clones on p4c-bos-01.p4e-syd-05/ham noise) -- fix belongs in the separate
BSW-43 project, not before SDP 2026.1 ships.p4bsw service running unnecessarily on
non-p4c-bos-01 fleet hosts -- to be filed as its own BSW job
(CommitRelease: Gen7), not fixed via this project's task list.bsw-qa-build-run skill.ProjectKickoff.md: "We'll need to setup new Jenkins builds
and do some retooling here." Per SDPTestSuite-DockerPodman.md: this is
the original SDP test suite (files ship in the SDP package itself;
Docker/Podman spins up machines from SDP test config files). A standing
Jenkins server currently runs builds against the Classic structure's
main and dev branches (dev build job:
http://workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com:8080/job/SDP-Dev-Build/,
requires Perforce VPN). Needs retooling to build from the new //p4-sdp
Streams structure instead. No deeper investigation done yet -- next step
is to look at the actual Jenkins job configuration to see what needs to
change.ProjectKickoff.md).//p4-sdp/dev/tools/ReleaseProcessOverview.md).Picked up for the week. Re-logged into the Public Depot (ticket had
expired over the weekend) 3x for full 24h duration. Confirmed no
dangling opened files in ai_dev_support or p4-sdp_dev_rebrand/test/bsw
Mac workspaces. Presented the consolidated To Do list to the user for
direction on where to go next; user confirmed Task 3 (Docker/Podman
Jenkins suite) is top priority today, but wanted #23/#24 knocked out
first, in parallel with the user digging into Jenkins server access.
Discovered PPN's DLP (Data Leakage Protection) behavior, via
p4login's Gen7 workspace ticket having expired and needing a
re-login: p4 clients (and similar) silently narrow to -u <YourP4USER> unless run as a super user -- explains why a plain
p4 clients -S <stream> came back empty even for a stream with a real
client. Documented in ai_dev_support/P4Info.md (new "PPN Server: DLP"
section, this project's own P4Info.md, change to follow).
Worked #23 (Gen7 path audit) and #24 (Gen7->main promotion / Gen8 creation process) together -- turned out to overlap heavily.
BattleSchool/Gen7
references and categorized them: RCS-keyword lines (self-expanding,
no action), historical session logs (correctly literal, no action),
"living" docs that describe Gen7 as if permanent (ai/AGENTS.md,
ai/BSW-Lab-Reference.md, ai/BSW_P4_Data_Sources.md, both skill
files), and docs/AWS-BattleSchool-ServerAMI.adoc (the actual Gen7
template-server build procedure, hardcoded throughout).p4 streams //BattleSchool/...),
which turned out to be the key evidence for #24: Gen6/Gen7 are
siblings parented directly on main (not a chain); per-host virtual
streams parent on the active generation stream during development,
while main has its own parallel set still named for the pre-Gen7
bos-helix-01 hostname convention, untouched since main only
changes at promotion time.//BattleSchool/Gen7_bos-helix-01 (same "old name left behind"
pattern as the SDP-QA insitu client fixed 2026-08-21). User confirmed
(running as super, bypassing DLP filtering) its one client
(p4bsw.Gen7.bos-helix-01) was dead too, and deleted both.Gen7_p4c-bos-01/Gen7_bsw-lab-ui-root use a prefix, but
bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7 uses a suffix.main's old per-host streams, Gen6's actual status/precedent value,
and which naming convention to standardize on). Answers: create new
correctly-named streams under main at promotion time and orphan
the old ones (with a note to plan their eventual removal once
rollback/historical value has passed); Gen6 predates the dev-stream
workflow entirely (not a promotion precedent); standardize on the
Gen<N>_<host> prefix form going forward.docs/BSW-Gen-Stream-Lifecycle.adoc (+ generated .html):
first-draft definition of the Gen<N> creation procedure (generalizing
AWS-BattleSchool-ServerAMI.adoc's Gen7-specific steps) and the
Gen7->main "Copy Up" promotion process, incorporating all of the
above -- including a checklist of the "living" docs that will need
review at the next promotion, and a DLP verification caveat. Marked
explicitly as a draft, not yet exercised against a real promotion or
Gen8 creation. Change 2763087.bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7's naming inconsistency deliberately left
unfixed for now (small, non-urgent, and renaming a possibly-bound
stream needs the same care as the Gen7_bos-helix-01 case) --
tracked in the new doc itself as a known follow-up.Started Task 3 (Docker/Podman/Jenkins), directly on the Jenkins host
(workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com, plain ssh as ttyler, sudo
available, no wrapper script needed -- unlike the BSW fleet). Explored
the SDP's own test/ and Server/test/ folders (Docker Compose-less
podman harness: run_docker_tests.sh builds a per-OS image, runs it,
execs /p4/docker_entry.sh inside, which runs test_sdp.sh ->
test_SDP.py/test_Upgrade.py) plus the actual Jenkins jobs and
workspaces on the host.
//p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand (parented on dev_rebrand, same pattern
as the BSW insitu streams) and a Jenkins job
p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand using the native Perforce Jenkins
plugin's Stream workspace mode -- P4 checkout from a Stream already
works correctly, confirmed in build logs. An earlier, abandoned job
p4-sdp dev_rebrand (note the space) hit a Java/AWT headless crash in
the P4 plugin and hasn't run since 2025-08-12 -- dead, superseded by
the working one.p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand
(builds 50-54, all failing identically at podman exec ... container state improper). The user noted this matches a snag they hit and
shelved when first prototyping this job, now back on the critical
path.jenkins OS
user's systemd session only had the memory/pids cgroup
controllers delegated (cat /sys/fs/cgroup/user.slice/user-981.slice/cgroup.controllers ->
memory pids), not cpu/cpuset/io -- which a systemd-as-PID-1
rootless container (the Rocky 9 test image uses
rockylinux/rockylinux:9-ubi-init) needs delegated to initialize its
own cgroup subtree. Fix applied (confirmed low-risk with the user
first: additive-only, doesn't remove anything from the Classic job
since it never runs systemd-in-container, only requires restarting
the jenkins user's own systemd session, not a host reboot):
/etc/systemd/system/user@.service.d/delegate.conf:
[Service]
Delegate=cpu cpuset io memory pidssudo systemctl daemon-reload (this alone was enough to apply the
new delegation to the already-running session -- no restart of
user@981.service actually needed, though one was done anyway as
a no-op confirmation).cgroup.controllers for user-981.slice went from
memory pids to cpuset cpu io memory pids.podman run/exec sequence as sudo -u jenkins -H bash -c ... still failed every time, with /sbin/init
inside the container dying silently (exit 255, no logged output)
within ~130ms of starting, even with the delegation fix in place and
even with the extra --privileged/cgroup-mount flags documented in
test/README.md.dnf history list shows no
package updates since 2025-08-12 (matching uptime -s, the box
hasn't rebooted since) -- podman/crun/kernel are unchanged from well
before the last confirmed-successful build (Classic job, build 951,
2026-07-21). So a stale/updated package wasn't the cause.SDP-Dev-Build (Classic)
Jenkins job via its web UI -- build 952: Finished: SUCCESS, with
the container genuinely starting and running (podman ps showed Up 23 seconds mid-build) via Jenkins's own process-launch path, the
exact same podman run/exec commands that failed every time under
my manual sudo -u jenkins -H reproduction. This means Jenkins's own
child-process launch context (likely proper session/cgroup
inheritance from the long-running jenkins.war process, which a bare
sudo -u jenkins -H doesn't replicate) is what actually matters here
-- not a host-wide regression. (Build 952 also re-confirmed the
pre-existing, already-known sdp.Unix.tgz 404/gzip-format bug in the
SDP-upgrade test step -- silently masked, unrelated to today's work.)The Streams job (p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand) failed for real too --
builds 55 and 56, both container state improper, identical to the
manual-repro signature. This meant the earlier "it's just a
reproduction-method artifact" conclusion was wrong (or at least
incomplete) -- under a real Jenkins trigger, Classic now has 2/2
successes (951 was old, 952 fresh today) and Streams has 2/2 failures
(55, 56), even though my own manual sudo -u jenkins -H reproduction
fails identically against both jobs' workspace directories (confirmed
via a clean A/B test) -- so manual reproduction genuinely can't be used
to diagnose this at all, but the real, job-specific difference is real.
Systematically hunted for what actually differs, ruling out one hypothesis at a time, each confirmed via a real Jenkins build (not manual reproduction, which is unusable here):
config.xml diff between the two jobs: only functionally
irrelevant differences (description, a stale plugin="p4@1.17.1"
vs "1.17.2" version stamp that doesn't actually pin anything,
Classic's extra <publishers> email step) plus the expected
streamName vs view distinction itself.config.xml). Build 57: still failed identically.
Ruled out.dnf history list shows no
updates since 2025-08-12 (matches uptime -s) -- already ruled out
before this item, re-confirmed still the case.//p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand depot path using a classic
View mapping instead of the P4 plugin's Stream workspace type.
Build 58 failed differently -- sdp/test/run_docker_tests.sh: No such file or directory -- not the podman crash at all. First
suspected a stale-workspace transition artifact; deleted the
workspace directory for a truly clean sync and retried. Build 59:
same "no such file(s)" result, and p4 sync itself reported "no
such file(s)" for the whole path. Root cause: build_dev_rebrand
is a virtual stream, and apparently needs a client to be genuinely
Stream-bound (Stream: field set) for the server to resolve its
Paths/remapping correctly -- a plain View naming the same depot path
from a non-stream-bound client doesn't work the way a stream client
does. This test was invalid from the start, not informative about
the podman crash either way. Reverted config.xml to the working
Stream-based setup (restored from backup).build_dev_rebrand) vs. the real dev_rebrand
stream directly: repointed the job's streamName at
//p4-sdp/dev_rebrand (still Stream-mode checkout, just a different,
non-virtual target), to isolate "virtual stream quirk" from
"dev_rebrand content." Cleared the workspace first. Build 60: same
"no such file(s)" symptom -- but this time p4 sync did report a
real sync (518 files, 19MB), the files just didn't land under an
sdp/ subdirectory the way run_docker_tests.sh expects. Root
cause, confirmed via p4 stream -o //p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand: that
virtual stream has a deliberate Remapped: ... sdp/... rule (Paths:
share ...) -- someone (likely the user, in earlier prototyping)
specifically engineered build_dev_rebrand to remap all content
under an sdp/ prefix, exactly matching the Classic job's
convention, so the same run_docker_tests.sh invocation
(sdp/test/run_docker_tests.sh) works unmodified regardless of which
underlying stream it's really pulling from. This is actually the
correct, already-designed pattern for future arbitrary-stream
jobs: one small build_<stream> virtual stream per target, each
with the same remap rule. Pointing directly at dev_rebrand broke
that convention -- a different, unrelated failure, not informative
about the crash. Reverted config.xml back to build_dev_rebrand
and cleared the workspace again, restoring the job to its
correctly-configured (if still crashing) state.//guest/perforce_software/sdp/dev/... has 891 files;
//p4-sdp/dev_rebrand/... has only 536. Streams' checkout is
smaller, ruling out "bigger/slower mount races the container start"
as an explanation too.Net result: every hypothesis testable without much more invasive tooling (strace/debug-level tracing of conmon/crun, or instrumenting the P4 plugin itself) has been ruled out. Classic reliably succeeds, Streams reliably fails, same host, same image, same commands, no distinguishing signal in any log. Decided with the user to pause here for the night rather than keep grinding -- flagged as genuinely Robert Cowham's territory (Docker/Podman guru), though the user is unsure of his near-term availability and skeptical he'd have an easy answer either, given how much has already been eliminated.
User's own idea, worth carrying forward: consider abandoning
workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com (Perforce corporate network,
VPN-gated, 1+ year uptime with zero package updates) in favor of a
fresh Jenkins host on a new AWS EC2 instance in the same AWS account as
the Public Depot -- Ubuntu 24, latest packages, full control, no VPN
requirement. Agent's recommendation: try a plain dnf update on the
current box first (cheap, reversible, 5-minute test of "would newer
podman/crun/kernel just fix this") before investing in a full VM
rebuild -- but the fresh-VM plan has real merit independent of this bug
(VPN removal, clean slate, full control) and is worth pursuing as a
medium-term move regardless. Not decided/actioned tonight.
doc/ReleaseProcessOverview.md's Jenkins link is stale/wrong
(.../jobs/sdp-dev vs. the real .../job/SDP-Dev-Build/) -- folding
into the Task 5 overhaul, not fixed today.test_sdp.sh's SDP-upgrade step downloads a dead URL
(workshop.perforce.com/download/p4-sdp/main/downloads/sdp.Unix.tgz,
404) -- silently masked (script's exit-code check doesn't catch the
tar failure), affects the already-succeeding Classic job too. Likely
won't have a real fix until an actual tarball is published under
p4-sdp post-2026.1 release.${os}-sdp, e.g. rocky9-sdp) -- fine while only one job builds at a
time, but worth parameterizing (e.g. include ${JOB_NAME}) before
running multiple stream builds concurrently, which is the long-term goal.p4-sdp dev_rebrand (space, Java/AWT crash) to be cleaned up./home/perforce/sdpdev/sdp (Robert Cowham's old manual test setup) and
/home/perforce/work (empty) look unused, per the user's own suspicion --
not touched today, not urgent.User tried the cheap dnf update test on the current Jenkins host
(the agent's suggested low-cost alternative to a full fresh-EC2
rebuild). Not as cheap as hoped:
sudo rpm --import https://pkg.jenkins.io/rpm-stable/jenkins.io-2026.key, retried --
this time dnf wanted 928 packages (jumped once the Jenkins repo
itself became usable again). Update completed, followed by
sudo reboot.SDP-Dev-Build #954)
failed -- got further than the podman step this time (ran for
several minutes) but crashed somewhere in the Python test code
(test_SDP.py/test_Upgrade.py), evidently a casualty of the huge
package jump (likely a Python version bump breaking something in the
test scripts, though not yet investigated in detail). So: the
previously-reliable Classic job is now broken too, post-update.
Net effect of tonight's update: traded one unresolved bug (Streams
container-startup crash) for a different one (Classic Python
breakage) -- not yet known whether the original podman/systemd issue
is actually fixed by the update, since Classic's own new failure
means we don't have a clean re-test of either job yet. Nothing
further investigated tonight; picking this up tomorrow.Three ideas captured for tomorrow, alongside the fresh-EC2-Jenkins idea from item 5:
run_all_tests.sh), the BSW Test Suite (currently the dedicated
Battle School Lab Environment + lab qa_build), and the Docker/Podman
(Python) suite could all potentially be managed/triggered through
Jenkins. Might tie into the fresh-EC2-Jenkins idea, or might just use
the existing (now-more-fragile-feeling) Jenkins host -- undecided.cli_tests.cfg/scripted_tests.cfg
config-driven approach already used by run_cli_tests.sh and
run_scripted_tests.sh in the other two suites (which the agent is
now familiar with from Task 1 and Task 2 work). User's instinct:
cli_tests.cfg's capabilities likely cover what the Python
(test_SDP.py/test_Upgrade.py) tests do, and config is easier to
maintain than Python code. User wants the agent's assessment on
this tomorrow -- not evaluated yet.dnf update silently jumping from 467 to 928 packages and breaking the
previously-reliable Classic job -- is itself an argument in favor of
a clean, deliberately-versioned fresh host over continuing to patch
this one blindly.Ending the day here. #23/#24 substantially advanced (not fully closed: the
new lifecycle doc is a first draft, unvalidated against a real
promotion/Gen8 creation, and the bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7 naming fix is
still open). Task 3 made real progress but ended in a genuinely unresolved
state: existing Streams-based Jenkins job infrastructure was found,
understood, and partially validated (native P4 plugin Stream workspace
mode works; the build_dev_rebrand virtual stream's sdp/-remap trick is
the right pattern for future arbitrary-stream jobs); a real
cgroup-delegation gap was found and fixed (needs communicating to Robert
Cowham -- not yet done); but the core blocker -- Classic succeeds,
Streams fails, same host/image/commands, no distinguishing log signal --
survived a long, systematic elimination process (parallel sync, package
regression, host degradation, checkout mode, virtual-vs-real stream,
checkout size) and remains unsolved. Paused for the night by mutual
decision rather than keep grinding with diminishing returns. p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand's config.xml and workspace are left in their
correctly-configured (pre-experiment) state, just still failing.
Since writing the above, the user tried the suggested dnf update --
see item 6. It was not the cheap/clean test hoped for: a Jenkins repo GPG
key issue, a jump from 467 to 928 packages, and a reboot later, the
previously-reliable Classic job now fails too (Python-code crash, not the
podman issue) -- so the state going into tomorrow is more unsettled than
when tonight's pause was first written up, not less.
Carried forward to next session: tell Robert Cowham about the cgroup
delegation change; figure out what the dnf update actually broke in the
Classic job's Python test path, and whether it incidentally fixed (or
didn't affect) the original Streams podman/systemd crash -- need a clean
re-test of both jobs; decide on the fresh-EC2-Jenkins-host idea (now
looking more attractive given tonight's update experience); evaluate
retiring the Docker/Podman/Python suite in favor of cli_tests.cfg-style
coverage (user wants the agent's assessment); consider consolidating all
three SDP test suites under Jenkins; job cleanup (p4-sdp dev_rebrand,
dead directories) and the reusable arbitrary-stream job template, both
still pending on the above being sorted out.
# Session Log - 2026-08-24
Agent: Claude Code
Model: Claude Sonnet 5 (claude-sonnet-5)
P4 identity used: bot_Claude_Anthropic (except where noted)
## Summary
New week, picking up from `SessionLog-2026-08-21.md` (Friday's big milestone:
`lab qa_build` reached 100% clean end-to-end). Refreshed the Public Depot
ticket (expired over the weekend, re-logged in 3x for full 24h duration),
confirmed no dangling opened files in either Mac workspace. User's focus
today: **Task 3 (upgrade the Docker/Podman test suite / Jenkins)** -- the
3rd and last of the 3 SDP test suites to get going for the Streams
migration.
## Where Things Stand (as of Monday morning)
- **Task 1 (SDP Installer Test Suite): complete.**
- **Task 2 (prepare SDP-QA-Gen7): huge milestone Friday** -- `lab qa_build`
now passes 100% clean (all 4 test suites), confirmed both by agent run and
the user's own manual run. Remaining carried-forward items, all
low-priority/deferred:
- Task #23: audit hardcoded `//BattleSchool/Gen7` path references.
- Task #24: define the Gen7->main promotion process and Gen8 stream
creation steps.
- Task #29: whether/how to give `bot_Claude_Anthropic` push access to the
two DVCS clones on `p4c-bos-01`.
- Task #35 (tracking only): BSW-43 EFS/NFS spillover into this EBS-only
lab (bogus `p4e-syd-05`/`ham` noise) -- fix belongs in the separate
BSW-43 project, not before SDP 2026.1 ships.
- Task #36 (tracking only): `p4bsw` service running unnecessarily on
non-`p4c-bos-01` fleet hosts -- to be filed as its own BSW job
(`CommitRelease: Gen7`), not fixed via this project's task list.
- Doc/skill gap ideas captured Friday: a Gen6->Gen7 naming-migration
checklist, and a symlink-log callout for the `bsw-qa-build-run` skill.
- **Task 3 (upgrade Docker/Podman test suite): not yet started.** Today's
focus. Per `ProjectKickoff.md`: "We'll need to setup new Jenkins builds
and do some retooling here." Per `SDPTestSuite-DockerPodman.md`: this is
the *original* SDP test suite (files ship in the SDP package itself;
Docker/Podman spins up machines from SDP test config files). A standing
Jenkins server currently runs builds against the **Classic** structure's
`main` and `dev` branches (dev build job:
`http://workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com:8080/job/SDP-Dev-Build/`,
requires Perforce VPN). Needs retooling to build from the new `//p4-sdp`
Streams structure instead. No deeper investigation done yet -- next step
is to look at the actual Jenkins job configuration to see what needs to
change.
- **Task 4 (Implement SDP 2026.1 features): not started** (JIRA list in
`ProjectKickoff.md`).
- **Task 5 (Redesign SDP Release Process): not started** (outdated doc at
`//p4-sdp/dev/tools/ReleaseProcessOverview.md`).
## Timeline
1. **Picked up for the week.** Re-logged into the Public Depot (ticket had
expired over the weekend) 3x for full 24h duration. Confirmed no
dangling opened files in `ai_dev_support` or `p4-sdp_dev_rebrand/test/bsw`
Mac workspaces. Presented the consolidated To Do list to the user for
direction on where to go next; user confirmed Task 3 (Docker/Podman
Jenkins suite) is top priority today, but wanted #23/#24 knocked out
first, in parallel with the user digging into Jenkins server access.
2. **Discovered PPN's DLP (Data Leakage Protection) behavior**, via
`p4login`'s Gen7 workspace ticket having expired and needing a
re-login: `p4 clients` (and similar) silently narrow to `-u
<YourP4USER>` unless run as a super user -- explains why a plain
`p4 clients -S <stream>` came back empty even for a stream with a real
client. Documented in `ai_dev_support/P4Info.md` (new "PPN Server: DLP"
section, this project's own P4Info.md, change to follow).
3. **Worked #23 (Gen7 path audit) and #24 (Gen7->main promotion / Gen8
creation process) together** -- turned out to overlap heavily.
- Grepped the whole Gen7 PPN workspace for `BattleSchool/Gen7`
references and categorized them: RCS-keyword lines (self-expanding,
no action), historical session logs (correctly literal, no action),
"living" docs that describe Gen7 as if permanent (`ai/AGENTS.md`,
`ai/BSW-Lab-Reference.md`, `ai/BSW_P4_Data_Sources.md`, both skill
files), and `docs/AWS-BattleSchool-ServerAMI.adoc` (the actual Gen7
template-server build procedure, hardcoded throughout).
- Pulled the real stream topology (`p4 streams //BattleSchool/...`),
which turned out to be the key evidence for #24: `Gen6`/`Gen7` are
siblings parented directly on `main` (not a chain); per-host virtual
streams parent on the active generation stream during development,
while `main` has its own parallel set still named for the pre-Gen7
`bos-helix-01` hostname convention, untouched since `main` only
changes at promotion time.
- **Bonus find**: a dead leftover virtual stream,
`//BattleSchool/Gen7_bos-helix-01` (same "old name left behind"
pattern as the SDP-QA insitu client fixed 2026-08-21). User confirmed
(running as super, bypassing DLP filtering) its one client
(`p4bsw.Gen7.bos-helix-01`) was dead too, and deleted both.
- Also found Gen7's own virtual-stream naming is inconsistent:
`Gen7_p4c-bos-01`/`Gen7_bsw-lab-ui-root` use a prefix, but
`bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7` uses a suffix.
- Asked the user three design questions (promotion-time handling of
`main`'s old per-host streams, Gen6's actual status/precedent value,
and which naming convention to standardize on). Answers: create new
correctly-named streams under `main` at promotion time and orphan
the old ones (with a note to plan their eventual removal once
rollback/historical value has passed); Gen6 predates the dev-stream
workflow entirely (not a promotion precedent); standardize on the
`Gen<N>_<host>` prefix form going forward.
- Wrote `docs/BSW-Gen-Stream-Lifecycle.adoc` (+ generated `.html`):
first-draft definition of the Gen<N> creation procedure (generalizing
`AWS-BattleSchool-ServerAMI.adoc`'s Gen7-specific steps) and the
Gen7->main "Copy Up" promotion process, incorporating all of the
above -- including a checklist of the "living" docs that will need
review at the next promotion, and a DLP verification caveat. Marked
explicitly as a draft, not yet exercised against a real promotion or
Gen8 creation. Change `2763087`.
- `bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7`'s naming inconsistency deliberately left
unfixed for now (small, non-urgent, and renaming a possibly-bound
stream needs the same care as the `Gen7_bos-helix-01` case) --
tracked in the new doc itself as a known follow-up.
4. **Started Task 3 (Docker/Podman/Jenkins), directly on the Jenkins host**
(`workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com`, plain `ssh` as `ttyler`, sudo
available, no wrapper script needed -- unlike the BSW fleet). Explored
the SDP's own `test/` and `Server/test/` folders (Docker Compose-less
podman harness: `run_docker_tests.sh` builds a per-OS image, runs it,
execs `/p4/docker_entry.sh` inside, which runs `test_sdp.sh` ->
`test_SDP.py`/`test_Upgrade.py`) plus the actual Jenkins jobs and
workspaces on the host.
- **Found existing, working Streams infrastructure already in place**
(earlier prototyping, prior to today): a virtual stream
`//p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand` (parented on `dev_rebrand`, same pattern
as the BSW insitu streams) and a Jenkins job
`p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand` using the **native Perforce Jenkins
plugin's Stream workspace mode** -- P4 checkout from a Stream already
works correctly, confirmed in build logs. An earlier, abandoned job
`p4-sdp dev_rebrand` (note the space) hit a Java/AWT headless crash in
the P4 plugin and hasn't run since 2025-08-12 -- dead, superseded by
the working one.
- **Investigated recurring test failures** in `p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand`
(builds 50-54, all failing identically at `podman exec ... container
state improper`). The user noted this matches a snag they hit and
shelved when first prototyping this job, now back on the critical
path.
- **Root-caused and partially fixed a real issue**: the `jenkins` OS
user's systemd session only had the `memory`/`pids` cgroup
controllers delegated (`cat
/sys/fs/cgroup/user.slice/user-981.slice/cgroup.controllers` ->
`memory pids`), not `cpu`/`cpuset`/`io` -- which a systemd-as-PID-1
rootless container (the Rocky 9 test image uses
`rockylinux/rockylinux:9-ubi-init`) needs delegated to initialize its
own cgroup subtree. **Fix applied** (confirmed low-risk with the user
first: additive-only, doesn't remove anything from the Classic job
since it never runs systemd-in-container, only requires restarting
the `jenkins` user's own systemd session, not a host reboot):
- Created `/etc/systemd/system/user@.service.d/delegate.conf`:
```
[Service]
Delegate=cpu cpuset io memory pids
```
- `sudo systemctl daemon-reload` (this alone was enough to apply the
new delegation to the already-running session -- no restart of
`user@981.service` actually needed, though one was done anyway as
a no-op confirmation).
- Verified: `cgroup.controllers` for `user-981.slice` went from
`memory pids` to `cpuset cpu io memory pids`.
- **Robert Cowham (Docker/Podman guru, based in the UK) needs to be
told about this change** -- user is authorized to make tweaks to
get builds working, but wants Robert kept informed. Flagging here
explicitly per the user's request; not yet communicated to Robert
as of this log entry.
- **This fix alone did not resolve the failures** -- manually
reproducing the exact same `podman run`/`exec` sequence as `sudo -u
jenkins -H bash -c ...` still failed every time, with `/sbin/init`
inside the container dying silently (exit 255, no logged output)
within ~130ms of starting, even with the delegation fix in place and
even with the extra `--privileged`/cgroup-mount flags documented in
`test/README.md`.
- **Ruled out a host package regression**: `dnf history list` shows no
package updates since 2025-08-12 (matching `uptime -s`, the box
hasn't rebooted since) -- podman/crun/kernel are unchanged from well
before the last confirmed-successful build (Classic job, build 951,
2026-07-21). So a stale/updated package wasn't the cause.
- **Resolution: the failure was an artifact of the manual reproduction
method, not a real current blocker.** At the user's suggestion,
manually clicked "Build Now" on the actual `SDP-Dev-Build` (Classic)
Jenkins job via its web UI -- **build 952: `Finished: SUCCESS`**, with
the container genuinely starting and running (`podman ps` showed `Up
23 seconds` mid-build) via Jenkins's own process-launch path, the
exact same `podman run`/`exec` commands that failed every time under
my manual `sudo -u jenkins -H` reproduction. This means Jenkins's own
child-process launch context (likely proper session/cgroup
inheritance from the long-running `jenkins.war` process, which a bare
`sudo -u jenkins -H` doesn't replicate) is what actually matters here
-- not a host-wide regression. (Build 952 also re-confirmed the
pre-existing, already-known `sdp.Unix.tgz` 404/gzip-format bug in the
SDP-upgrade test step -- silently masked, unrelated to today's work.)
5. **The Streams job (`p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand`) failed for real too --
builds 55 and 56, both `container state improper`, identical to the
manual-repro signature.** This meant the earlier "it's just a
reproduction-method artifact" conclusion was wrong (or at least
incomplete) -- under a **real** Jenkins trigger, Classic now has 2/2
successes (951 was old, 952 fresh today) and Streams has 2/2 failures
(55, 56), even though my own manual `sudo -u jenkins -H` reproduction
fails identically against *both* jobs' workspace directories (confirmed
via a clean A/B test) -- so manual reproduction genuinely can't be used
to diagnose this at all, but the real, job-specific difference is real.
Systematically hunted for what actually differs, ruling out one
hypothesis at a time, each confirmed via a **real** Jenkins build
(not manual reproduction, which is unusable here):
- **Full `config.xml` diff between the two jobs**: only functionally
irrelevant differences (`description`, a stale `plugin="p4@1.17.1"`
vs `"1.17.2"` version stamp that doesn't actually pin anything,
Classic's extra `<publishers>` email step) plus the expected
`streamName` vs `view` distinction itself.
- **Parallel populate (sync) setting**: Classic had it disabled,
Streams had it enabled (4 threads) -- a real, confirmed difference,
and a plausible-sounding mechanism (concurrent p4 helper subprocesses
contending for cgroup/session resources right as the container
starts). User disabled it via the Jenkins UI (confirmed correctly
applied in `config.xml`). **Build 57: still failed identically.**
Ruled out.
- **Host package/version regression**: `dnf history list` shows no
updates since 2025-08-12 (matches `uptime -s`) -- already ruled out
before this item, re-confirmed still the case.
- **Stream-mode vs. View-mode checkout**: temporarily repointed the job
at the same `//p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand` depot path using a classic
View mapping instead of the P4 plugin's Stream workspace type.
**Build 58 failed differently** -- `sdp/test/run_docker_tests.sh: No
such file or directory` -- not the podman crash at all. First
suspected a stale-workspace transition artifact; deleted the
workspace directory for a truly clean sync and retried. **Build 59:
same "no such file(s)" result, and `p4 sync` itself reported "no
such file(s)" for the whole path.** Root cause: `build_dev_rebrand`
is a *virtual* stream, and apparently needs a client to be genuinely
Stream-bound (`Stream:` field set) for the server to resolve its
Paths/remapping correctly -- a plain View naming the same depot path
from a non-stream-bound client doesn't work the way a stream client
does. This test was invalid from the start, not informative about
the podman crash either way. Reverted `config.xml` to the working
Stream-based setup (restored from backup).
- **Virtual stream (`build_dev_rebrand`) vs. the real `dev_rebrand`
stream directly**: repointed the job's `streamName` at
`//p4-sdp/dev_rebrand` (still Stream-mode checkout, just a different,
non-virtual target), to isolate "virtual stream quirk" from
"dev_rebrand content." Cleared the workspace first. **Build 60: same
"no such file(s)" symptom** -- but this time `p4 sync` *did* report a
real sync (518 files, 19MB), the files just didn't land under an
`sdp/` subdirectory the way `run_docker_tests.sh` expects. Root
cause, confirmed via `p4 stream -o //p4-sdp/build_dev_rebrand`: that
virtual stream has a deliberate `Remapped: ... sdp/...` rule (Paths:
`share ...`) -- someone (likely the user, in earlier prototyping)
specifically engineered `build_dev_rebrand` to remap all content
under an `sdp/` prefix, exactly matching the Classic job's
convention, so the *same* `run_docker_tests.sh` invocation
(`sdp/test/run_docker_tests.sh`) works unmodified regardless of which
underlying stream it's really pulling from. This is actually the
**correct, already-designed pattern for future arbitrary-stream
jobs**: one small `build_<stream>` virtual stream per target, each
with the same remap rule. Pointing directly at `dev_rebrand` broke
that convention -- a different, unrelated failure, not informative
about the crash. Reverted `config.xml` back to `build_dev_rebrand`
and cleared the workspace again, restoring the job to its
correctly-configured (if still crashing) state.
- **Checkout size/complexity**: compared file counts directly --
Classic's `//guest/perforce_software/sdp/dev/...` has 891 files;
`//p4-sdp/dev_rebrand/...` has only 536. Streams' checkout is
*smaller*, ruling out "bigger/slower mount races the container start"
as an explanation too.
**Net result: every hypothesis testable without much more invasive
tooling (strace/debug-level tracing of conmon/crun, or instrumenting
the P4 plugin itself) has been ruled out.** Classic reliably succeeds,
Streams reliably fails, same host, same image, same commands, no
distinguishing signal in any log. Decided with the user to pause here
for the night rather than keep grinding -- flagged as genuinely
Robert Cowham's territory (Docker/Podman guru), though the user is
unsure of his near-term availability and skeptical he'd have an easy
answer either, given how much has already been eliminated.
**User's own idea, worth carrying forward**: consider abandoning
`workshop-jenkins.das.perforce.com` (Perforce corporate network,
VPN-gated, 1+ year uptime with zero package updates) in favor of a
fresh Jenkins host on a new AWS EC2 instance in the same AWS account as
the Public Depot -- Ubuntu 24, latest packages, full control, no VPN
requirement. Agent's recommendation: try a plain `dnf update` on the
*current* box first (cheap, reversible, 5-minute test of "would newer
podman/crun/kernel just fix this") before investing in a full VM
rebuild -- but the fresh-VM plan has real merit independent of this bug
(VPN removal, clean slate, full control) and is worth pursuing as a
medium-term move regardless. Not decided/actioned tonight.
## Open Findings Not Yet Actioned (Task 3)
- `doc/ReleaseProcessOverview.md`'s Jenkins link is stale/wrong
(`.../jobs/sdp-dev` vs. the real `.../job/SDP-Dev-Build/`) -- folding
into the Task 5 overhaul, not fixed today.
- `test_sdp.sh`'s SDP-upgrade step downloads a dead URL
(`workshop.perforce.com/download/p4-sdp/main/downloads/sdp.Unix.tgz`,
404) -- silently masked (script's exit-code check doesn't catch the
`tar` failure), affects the *already-succeeding* Classic job too. Likely
won't have a real fix until an actual tarball is published under
`p4-sdp` post-2026.1 release.
- Container name collision risk: all jobs hardcode the same container name
(`${os}-sdp`, e.g. `rocky9-sdp`) -- fine while only one job builds at a
time, but worth parameterizing (e.g. include `${JOB_NAME}`) before
running multiple stream builds concurrently, which is the long-term goal.
- Dead job `p4-sdp dev_rebrand` (space, Java/AWT crash) to be cleaned up.
- `/home/perforce/sdpdev/sdp` (Robert Cowham's old manual test setup) and
`/home/perforce/work` (empty) look unused, per the user's own suspicion --
not touched today, not urgent.
6. **User tried the cheap `dnf update` test on the current Jenkins host**
(the agent's suggested low-cost alternative to a full fresh-EC2
rebuild). Not as cheap as hoped:
- First attempt: dnf wanted to update 467 packages, then failed on an
outdated Jenkins repo GPG key.
- Fixed with `sudo rpm --import
https://pkg.jenkins.io/rpm-stable/jenkins.io-2026.key`, retried --
this time dnf wanted 928 packages (jumped once the Jenkins repo
itself became usable again). Update completed, followed by
`sudo reboot`.
- **Post-reboot verification build (Classic `SDP-Dev-Build` #954)
failed** -- got further than the podman step this time (ran for
several minutes) but crashed somewhere in the Python test code
(`test_SDP.py`/`test_Upgrade.py`), evidently a casualty of the huge
package jump (likely a Python version bump breaking something in the
test scripts, though not yet investigated in detail). So: **the
previously-reliable Classic job is now broken too**, post-update.
Net effect of tonight's update: traded one unresolved bug (Streams
container-startup crash) for a different one (Classic Python
breakage) -- not yet known whether the original podman/systemd issue
is actually fixed by the update, since Classic's own new failure
means we don't have a clean re-test of *either* job yet. Nothing
further investigated tonight; picking this up tomorrow.
7. **Three ideas captured for tomorrow, alongside the fresh-EC2-Jenkins
idea from item 5:**
- **Consolidate all SDP test suite orchestration under Jenkins**: the
SDP Installer Test Suite (currently its own EC2 fleet +
`run_all_tests.sh`), the BSW Test Suite (currently the dedicated
Battle School Lab Environment + `lab qa_build`), and the Docker/Podman
(Python) suite could all potentially be managed/triggered through
Jenkins. Might tie into the fresh-EC2-Jenkins idea, or might just use
the existing (now-more-fragile-feeling) Jenkins host -- undecided.
- **Consider retiring the Docker/Podman/Python test suite entirely**,
replacing its coverage with the `cli_tests.cfg`/`scripted_tests.cfg`
config-driven approach already used by `run_cli_tests.sh` and
`run_scripted_tests.sh` in the other two suites (which the agent is
now familiar with from Task 1 and Task 2 work). User's instinct:
`cli_tests.cfg`'s capabilities likely cover what the Python
(`test_SDP.py`/`test_Upgrade.py`) tests do, and config is easier to
maintain than Python code. **User wants the agent's assessment on
this tomorrow** -- not evaluated yet.
- (Implicit, from item 6's outcome) Whatever happens with the
fresh-EC2-Jenkins decision, tonight's experience -- a routine `dnf
update` silently jumping from 467 to 928 packages and breaking the
previously-reliable Classic job -- is itself an argument in favor of
a clean, deliberately-versioned fresh host over continuing to patch
this one blindly.
## Wrap-Up
Ending the day here. #23/#24 substantially advanced (not fully closed: the
new lifecycle doc is a first draft, unvalidated against a real
promotion/Gen8 creation, and the `bsw-lab-ui-student_Gen7` naming fix is
still open). Task 3 made real progress but ended in a genuinely unresolved
state: existing Streams-based Jenkins job infrastructure was found,
understood, and partially validated (native P4 plugin Stream workspace
mode works; the `build_dev_rebrand` virtual stream's `sdp/`-remap trick is
the right pattern for future arbitrary-stream jobs); a real
cgroup-delegation gap was found and fixed (**needs communicating to Robert
Cowham** -- not yet done); but the core blocker -- Classic succeeds,
Streams fails, same host/image/commands, no distinguishing log signal --
survived a long, systematic elimination process (parallel sync, package
regression, host degradation, checkout mode, virtual-vs-real stream,
checkout size) and remains unsolved. Paused for the night by mutual
decision rather than keep grinding with diminishing returns. `p4-sdp-build_dev_rebrand`'s `config.xml` and workspace are left in their
correctly-configured (pre-experiment) state, just still failing.
Since writing the above, the user tried the suggested `dnf update` --
see item 6. It was not the cheap/clean test hoped for: a Jenkins repo GPG
key issue, a jump from 467 to 928 packages, and a reboot later, the
previously-reliable Classic job now fails too (Python-code crash, not the
podman issue) -- so the state going into tomorrow is *more* unsettled than
when tonight's pause was first written up, not less.
**Carried forward to next session**: tell Robert Cowham about the cgroup
delegation change; figure out what the `dnf update` actually broke in the
Classic job's Python test path, and whether it incidentally fixed (or
didn't affect) the original Streams podman/systemd crash -- need a clean
re-test of both jobs; decide on the fresh-EC2-Jenkins-host idea (now
looking more attractive given tonight's update experience); evaluate
retiring the Docker/Podman/Python suite in favor of `cli_tests.cfg`-style
coverage (user wants the agent's assessment); consider consolidating all
three SDP test suites under Jenkins; job cleanup (`p4-sdp dev_rebrand`,
dead directories) and the reusable arbitrary-stream job template, both
still pending on the above being sorted out.
| # | Change | User | Description | Committed | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| #2 | 33257 | Claude (AI Agent by Anthropic) | Session log update for 2026-08-24: recorded the post-pause 'dnf update' saga on workshop-jenkins (Jenkins GPG key issue, 467->928 packages, reboot, Classic job now broken too post-update) and three new ideas to ponder tomorrow -- consolidating all SDP test suites under Jenkins, retiring the Docker/Podman/Python suite in favor of cli_tests.cfg-style coverage, and the fresh-EC2-Jenkins-host option now looking more attractive. | ||
| #1 | 33256 | Claude (AI Agent by Anthropic) |
Session log for 2026-08-24: #23/#24 (Gen7 path audit / promotion process) substantially advanced, new BSW-Gen-Stream-Lifecycle.adoc doc; Task 3 (Docker/Podman/Jenkins) kicked off with a long systematic investigation into a Classic-succeeds/Streams-fails podman/systemd container startup bug, fixed a real cgroup delegation gap, but the core bug remains unresolved after eliminating parallel sync, package regression, host degradation, checkout mode, and checkout size as causes. Paused for the night. |